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LATEST CONVERSATIONS: Politics and Religion

Politics is related to the physicality, and religion to the Spirituality; just as the State (physical) and Church (Spiritual).

Many people are attracted to politics, but some to religion. Both of these attractions are there due to the physical and Spiritual needs / hunger, because that is what we as humans are made of; flesh plus Spirit. Some people unite thru a political party (Material), and some thru a religious group (Energy/Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and so on).
E = M; the Spirit or Spark in me is my Energy, and my flesh is my Mass. So there is also a physical hunger in me because of my flesh, as well as a Spiritual hunger in me because of my Spirit. Some people hunger for politics and some for religion; others hunger for Spirituality (Pure Energy), but most for material things (M).
The spiritual hunger in ancient men & women is what caused their idolatry, because they felt the need to try to satisfy that hunger, just as we all do.

Politics and Religion

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4 Responses to “Politics and Religion”

  1. November 19, 2015 at 1:44 am, John Sharman said:

    So, what is it that you’re saying, really? All of this is pretty elementary stuff. Of course we all have both spiritual and physical needs.

    But about “religion” and “spirituality”. They’re not the same thing. Religions are institutions, they’re human organisations that pervert true spirituality into a substitute for the masses, who don’t really want to know what true spirituality is. True spirituality sees through the emptiness and deception of all religions.

    • November 27, 2015 at 11:49 pm, Gedi said:

      Interesting perspective. I would describe both religion and politics as mere concepts in themselves. Spirituality is perhaps the catalyst that inspires people to create a conceptual framework for a spiritual path as in religions and politics is ultimately another concept, whether its social politics, governmental politics developed to manage groups of people (for want of a better description..).

      Unfortunately as with any concepts they are open to misuse by the unconscious elements of the world. This is why idolatry is a significant issue within most religions, when we begin to conceptualize, we begin to create separateness illusions in our own reality that we unfortunately cling to. When we define an ‘us’ we simultaneously require a ‘them’. This allows our grasping mind to grasp at concepts and takes us further from the source that we all are. It’s of course very useful to conceptualize in our material physical world, however we must always remember there are no true separate concepts, only ones we perceive as divisions of the whole. Whatever the concept, if we forget that, we get drawn away from the true meaning of spirituality.

    • February 16, 2016 at 4:19 pm, EarlyBird said:

      Allow me to pipe up in here, John. You may be right that religions in and of themselves can be dead ends. They can certainly be man made hells. But they can often be great starting points for seekers. Saints and sages experience spiritual ecstasy within their religious traditions are very real.

      Ideally, religion instructs the individual early on that there is more to life than just satisfying our temporary material needs and wants, accumulating a lot of stuff and accomplishments before we “die.” Without religion, there would be far more human beings living that bleak existence.

      • February 17, 2016 at 1:02 am, John Sharman said:

        It’s a valid point. Religions can certainly provide that supportive structure. It’s all too easy, though (and billions of us do it), to bask in the compromise of established beliefs, all those difficult questions already worked out for us, and all we have to do is settle back and put our trust in the priest or guru, or whoever.

        And then of course, all the adherents of the different beliefs can have a great old time slandering and slaughtering each other in the name of their gods.

        But I guess that’s the price we have to pay, collectively, for just a few of us to move beyond all that murder and mayhem…

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